MC-W1SH: [url=site://post/view/997925#c3318311]@Franky_Whiskey[/url: Just because I like rule 34 ponies that doesn't mean I'm a furry. MLP is actually the only thing I like.
Anonymous10: He does have a bit of a point though, especially when you enjoy the anthro aspect of the pony art.
Regardless of how you see it, it's an interest in anthropomorphic artwork, just different species. I've just noticed that pony fans are WAY more protective of their crushes being with OC's than furries are.
Agent_Cobra: I don't mind furries, most I have met are actually really nice...but that one looks terrible >.< Why do so many of the furries that make it onto A) Look awful and B) have glasses?
I'll translate my post into layman terms: everything that is not a bronie regards you as a furry. It doesn't matter if all furries agree that you'se a separate fandom, outside our circles, to outsiders with an average knowledge of the internet, you, still, come as furries.
Get it now? I am not the problem, nor the guys fighting here. The problem goes far beyond that.
Funny part is that insted of just disregarding the label, as "yeah yeah furfag, whateva", bitches like you two tend to spiral into a rage of "HURRR I AM NOTS A FURFAAAAG! FUCK OFF AND YIFF IN HELL! CLOP CLOP !!!!1111!1ONEONE".
Why, then, the rage? Is it perhaps because deep inside of you, you are looking at furry porn and liking it?
Think about this next time you are clopping to some flank.
deathstriker: Come to think of it, pony porn was ALLWAYS regarded as furry porn even the days before the internet existed.
What has changed since now? Nothing except some "sensitivities".
@Franky_Whiskey: and pretty much everyone else who keeps trying to force the label.
Your opinion is not fact. Any more than mine is. It's just perspective.
When I think "Furry" I think of the general (and I shudder to use this word) "culture" that goes with it. Many of us do not run in those circles and don't care to. Thus we don't consider ourselves furries. Plain and simple. Calling us all furries is no more true than saying every pony fan is a neckbearded manchild. And we all know how old that's gotten.
Further for people who haven't been paying attention. Around this particular branch of the community "furfag" is more used to describe self-inserting asshats on an ego-trip. Weather that's commissioner or artist is irrelevant.
Most of us have no problem with the general furry community.
Franky_Whiskey: @Faptacular: Your opinion, as well as mine, are not facts, true. But what about the collective opinions of many people? Yes, they are still not fact, but they establish themselves as so, and we obey. By many people I refer to society in general.
That's all I was saying, Faptacular. Deal with it. Furries sure have.
PinkBallons: @Franky_Whiskey: That's fucking retarded, Franky. The opinion of a person that knows next to nothing about what he or she is talking about is irrelevant. The fact that there are a lot of them does not change that.
I'm really only a brony in that I watch FiM, and have no involvement in the fandom itself outside of this website, which can hardly be called involvement at all. I'm willing to call myself a brony out of convenience, but I will never consider myself a furry, no matter how many people are against me on the matter. This isn't so much because I dislike furries (in all honesty, the brony fandom is on about the same level), but because it's a less accurate term for what I am; it's insulting. It's like calling someone "foreigner" right to their face when you already know their name.
Franky_Whiskey: @PinkBallons: My dear PinkBallons, you didn't read well enough. My opinion doesn't matter. What matters is how the noumena regards you as(AKA outsiders to our circles.)
And yes, the popular opinion DOES changes thing. Why do you think we have harmless drugs like pot and salvia banned? Why do you think we still paramilitary weapons still roaming around? Why do you think people regard bronies as manchildren? Because the majority of people regard those statements and ideas as valid, regardless of how wrong and misconcepted they are. Oh, and I don't think bronies are manchildren, or else I have to say furries are manchildren as well. And (most) are not.
What you fail to grasp is that your definition is as irrelevant as mine; it is the definition of the vast majority that matters. I am not even having an opinion here - I am stating, to you, a basic truth.
Yes, it is insulting and biased. But that's how we roll as a society. Whether you accept it or not is up to you.
PinkBallons: @Franky_Whiskey: Yeah, that isn't going to happen. I'd take the opinions of a handful of experienced people over that of a million inexperienced ones any day. Maybe that experience would make them more bias one way or the other, but at least their reasoning would be based on something.
@PinkBallons: I'd take the opinions of a handful of experienced people over that of a million inexperienced ones any day.
That's the thing. You. You choose the opinions you like. You choose who to listen to. But it changes nothing. You are still regarded as the majority wants to regard you. While it is true, as well, that ones mold his environment depending on how one percepts things, what cannot change is how your outside treats you. And by closing yourself in your shell, instead of interacting with the "inexperienced", you are only reinforcing the label they apply to your and my fandom.
I also hope you're not calling me inexperienced, because I love the show. It is one of the few things of this decade that doesn't suck ass.
PinkBallons: @Franky_Whiskey: Nothing I've said so far has been directed at you other than "That's fucking retarded."
I definitely do interact with them, by listening to their side of things and giving my counter-argument. They rarely listen, but a man can try, no? I refuse to sit back and do nothing, which is what you seem to be asking me to do.
Franky_Whiskey: @PinkBallons: Sit back and do nothing. And what are you and me doing now? We are so not making any change at all, that basically we are doing nothing.
It would be the same to just lie down, and relax. Disregard the labels, instead of getting on arms to fight a battle that'll never be won.
PinkBallons: @Franky_Whiskey: We're exchanging ideas, in an open form that many others will see. If even one of them takes any of this to heart, then I feel it made a difference, no matter how insignificant. True, the tide will remain unchanged, the war never truly won, but maybe along the way I can win a battle or two.
RogerTheRabbit: These excessive comment threads on the pony pictures are getting too big. We can expect these things on the featured image, but you kids are way overdoing it here, this isn't irc.
PinkBallons: @RogerTheRabbit: Our back-and-fourth makes up, what, 1/3rd of the comments? It's really only an issue when it spreads over multiple threads and the conversation is not relevant to the image. Kind of like this one that you started.
RogerTheRabbit: @PinkBallons: you are missing the point, the issue is the general tendency for these images to end up in clusterfucks. Well these and the troll posts.
PinkBallons: @RogerTheRabbit: ...So what is your point, then? What should be done? MLP is popular, therefore more people will post in them. More people means more arguments.
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Denial IS magic!
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Yeap, sounds like fucking furry to mke!
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Regardless of how you see it, it's an interest in anthropomorphic artwork, just different species. I've just noticed that pony fans are WAY more protective of their crushes being with OC's than furries are.
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I'll translate my post into layman terms: everything that is not a bronie regards you as a furry. It doesn't matter if all furries agree that you'se a separate fandom, outside our circles, to outsiders with an average knowledge of the internet, you, still, come as furries.
Get it now? I am not the problem, nor the guys fighting here. The problem goes far beyond that.
Funny part is that insted of just disregarding the label, as "yeah yeah furfag, whateva", bitches like you two tend to spiral into a rage of "HURRR I AM NOTS A FURFAAAAG! FUCK OFF AND YIFF IN HELL! CLOP CLOP !!!!1111!1ONEONE".
Why, then, the rage? Is it perhaps because deep inside of you, you are looking at furry porn and liking it?
Think about this next time you are clopping to some flank.
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What has changed since now? Nothing except some "sensitivities".
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@Franky_Whiskey: and pretty much everyone else who keeps trying to force the label.
Your opinion is not fact. Any more than mine is. It's just perspective.
When I think "Furry" I think of the general (and I shudder to use this word) "culture" that goes with it. Many of us do not run in those circles and don't care to. Thus we don't consider ourselves furries. Plain and simple. Calling us all furries is no more true than saying every pony fan is a neckbearded manchild. And we all know how old that's gotten.
Further for people who haven't been paying attention. Around this particular branch of the community "furfag" is more used to describe self-inserting asshats on an ego-trip. Weather that's commissioner or artist is irrelevant.
Most of us have no problem with the general furry community.
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That's all I was saying, Faptacular. Deal with it. Furries sure have.
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I'm really only a brony in that I watch FiM, and have no involvement in the fandom itself outside of this website, which can hardly be called involvement at all. I'm willing to call myself a brony out of convenience, but I will never consider myself a furry, no matter how many people are against me on the matter. This isn't so much because I dislike furries (in all honesty, the brony fandom is on about the same level), but because it's a less accurate term for what I am; it's insulting. It's like calling someone "foreigner" right to their face when you already know their name.
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And yes, the popular opinion DOES changes thing. Why do you think we have harmless drugs like pot and salvia banned? Why do you think we still paramilitary weapons still roaming around? Why do you think people regard bronies as manchildren? Because the majority of people regard those statements and ideas as valid, regardless of how wrong and misconcepted they are. Oh, and I don't think bronies are manchildren, or else I have to say furries are manchildren as well. And (most) are not.
What you fail to grasp is that your definition is as irrelevant as mine; it is the definition of the vast majority that matters. I am not even having an opinion here - I am stating, to you, a basic truth.
Yes, it is insulting and biased. But that's how we roll as a society. Whether you accept it or not is up to you.
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That's the thing. You. You choose the opinions you like. You choose who to listen to. But it changes nothing. You are still regarded as the majority wants to regard you. While it is true, as well, that ones mold his environment depending on how one percepts things, what cannot change is how your outside treats you. And by closing yourself in your shell, instead of interacting with the "inexperienced", you are only reinforcing the label they apply to your and my fandom.
I also hope you're not calling me inexperienced, because I love the show. It is one of the few things of this decade that doesn't suck ass.
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I definitely do interact with them, by listening to their side of things and giving my counter-argument. They rarely listen, but a man can try, no? I refuse to sit back and do nothing, which is what you seem to be asking me to do.
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It would be the same to just lie down, and relax. Disregard the labels, instead of getting on arms to fight a battle that'll never be won.
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Good show.
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