SilverS: @Roflcakes: Hey its not like he's 12 shades of the rainbow... why can't we all just leave other peoples OC's alone? I mean play nice with each other? I know the reason to hate OC's and such but still.
Roflcakes: @SilverS: Bad IMO, anyway. He's an alicorn, he has fucking FIRE for a mane and he has Princess Luna markings. The next logical step would be to make him completely rainbow like you said and perhaps give him a completely meta cutie mark.
Why can't people just make OCs that look like they at least fit into the world they're supposed to exist in?
SilverS: @Roflcakes: Tried making em match Luna?? Besides I'd like to see YOU try and give me an example of a GOOD OC! If SOMEONE can set the standard and not bitch at each other and actually WORK together to MAKE one then we'd all be happy! agreed?
Roflcakes: @SilverS: We're setting standards now? You know they already exist, right? Look at the source material if you want standards to work off. Coincidentally, the best pony OCs I've ever all look like they could pass off as background ponies.
Anonymous4(2): @SilverS: I wasn't insulting. If it looks like Gary Stu, acts like Gary Stu chances are it is Gary Stu. That's the way this OC comes off of, like it or not. Personally I don't care about him one way or another.
SilverS: @Roflcakes: Mind telling me one >.> lol Im not sure where to go now. But I know what you mean, Im just trying to make something that at least matches Luna, a regular ol pony is just...off. I understand your hate, so I don't really hate you BTW.
SilverS: @Gomenasai: It's just a pic on rule 34.....how else would he act? Like honestly sometimes I think everyone's jealous of everyone else. Dont worry Im like that sometimes too. You see someone else OC going at your fav character and you get this hating feeling. Its just the way it is. agree?
Roflcakes: @SilverS: I can't give you an example, but they're out there. Unfortunately, it's a rarity to actually find a pony OC that's designed modestly and takes into consideration the art style of the show.
Also, I should point out that I don't dislike the art, just the OC design (dislike, not hate). You drew Luna absolutely spot on.
SilverS: @Gomenasai: Well...I come here. First day on R34. I took like a month planning him out. Took 3 days to do that pic. was proud of actually, posted it. and the first comments were kinda hurtful :/ but that's just me. Anywho, thanks, but like, I just want you to understand I was trying lol trying, to make him kinda fit with Luna, know what I mean? Like match her? If you can, you can maybe help me improve? :)
SilverS: @Roflcakes: Well...I come here. First day on R34. I took like a month planning him out. Took 3 days to do that pic. was proud of actually, posted it. and the first comments were kinda hurtful :/ but that's just me. Anywho, thanks, but like, I just want you to understand I was trying lol trying, to make him kinda fit with Luna, know what I mean? Like match her? If you can, you can maybe help me improve? :)
Lapp: @SilverS: C'mon now, Gomen and Roflcakes are really expressing what's become a longstanding consensus is here. And while Gomen might not be the most tender at times, he's right to point out that he has a problem with the OC. It's a good pic and you're a talented artist, but it's the sad nature of things that he might be better received elsewhere.
However, I do hope to see more art from you and hope this doesn't turn you off from paheal. OC's have simply accrued more disdain than most of us might give if you killed our families off, lol. The point is, it's a pre-existing feeling and not born for you alone. We still wubs you. c:
SilverS: @Gomenasai: lol, there's like an entire back story to my character and his relationship with Luna I did with 2 friends of mine who BTW have back stories to their characters. It's really fun creating things. But Silver and Luna up there are kinda crazy, so Twi's library it was xD
Roflcakes: @SilverS: Advice? Okay, this is going to sound really strange coming from me after what I just said but honestly... keep doing your own thing. It's impossible to please everybody so at the very least, you should please yourself. Accepting harsh or often times irrational criticism is just something that comes with the territory, especially when you post on boards like Paheal and ultimately it's up to you whether you take it to heart or not.
SilverS: @Roflcakes: Meh thanks, but Im spending some more time to re-do him. I had an ol cutie mark that I think will work better plus a few other things. Thanks man, and like I said, I've never had anything against you from the start.
SilverS: @Roflcakes: oh this is him non-rule 34. what do you think? Some things are different http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbcg5jFOqw1rf7y6uo1_500.png
The_Elder_Troll: Everyone just shut the fuck up. Yes we don't like it, but you don't need to bitch and flame it, maybe I don't like it either for reasons, but just fucking ignore it, and change the picture. You guys always have to bitch and moan. I've done it before two but hat is when the OC is unbearable. Now you got me bitching and moaning about you.
The_Elder_Troll: @SilverS: If you say it's okay one more time ill shoot the next guy that walks down my street! How will that make you feel! Jk, just having fun.
PinkBallons: @SilverS: Hmm...As far as what urks me about him: His flaming hair, how tall he is (It would make more sense if he was the same size as Cadance), and his cutie mark should be completely unique. As it's already been stated, no matter what you do someone is going to dislike your OC, especially considering he's an alicorn. The worst thing you can do is try to make him too special as far as looks go.
Here's some OC's that I've liked: >>888302 and http://i.imgur.com/BQZbn.jpg.
Lapp: @SilverS: Welp, honestly, it all boils down to the alicorn-OC thing. It's feasible that the alicorn Princesses would be interested pretty solely in other alicorns, but it just probably won't fly with any audience to see non-canon alicorns (hell, I thought it was dumb when they suddenly threw Cadence in as an alicorn). And me myself, I really don't mind any OC's at this point so long as they're: ponies, not smug, and treating the pony they're with well. I was just trying to defend the Paheal-consensus on OC's, as it's a view upheld by people I like.
Oh, and what's this about "natural defensive" reasons? I'd, without hesitation, volunteer one of my gentleman-compatriots from around here on paheal before myself. And I'm generally the first to inform someone that they can definitively do better than me. It may seem even nerdier, but we really do have long-winded conversation over the characterization of OC's versus methods of characterization used in FiM and why the OC's don't fit for these reasons.
bAv-R34: >this thread
Throw me a raft, I'm drowning in autism.
@SilverS: I suggest making the OC simple, and make sure you balance them REAL good. I've been developing my OCs for nearly one and a half years before FiM came out [roughly since 2008/2009] and they are STILL marysue-ish. Yet again, they're technologically advanced aliens and shit. In other words, do not make your character overly complicated.
SilverS: @PinkBallons: Ok, so for the mane, what would you be at least ok with? the height I agree should be slightly smaller, but a lil taller than cadence?
Anonymous9(8): @SilverS: Who the fuck thinks people hate OC's for "natural" reasons? People hate them becuase they're massive raging faggots who critique others work without themselves being able to do anything. At least that's what I've found from studying them.
PinkBallons: @SilverS: Considering he's a stallion, yeah, a little taller than Cadance would be fine. As far as the mane goes, I'd say go for a single color that doesn't clash too much with his coat and isn't something silly like red or black.
Look at this carefully and think hard on it. OC's are indeed fun to create, but the price is good/bad criticism. If you can't accept negative criticisms, then you'll have a hard time dealing with yourself. Here's something you should keep in mind:No OC can be genuinely perfect, just constrictive perfection.
Also, just a heads up in the future. If your planning on making more OC's, I suggest not making anymore Alicorn OC's... trust me, those are hard to accomplish. As for this OC, be sure to make it... well... fitting as possible. That means no flaming mane, related/lover to Luna and whatnot, and acting as a deity/prince of something. It's like your trying to make the ultimate OC that will surpass any other OCs. That's a big no no. So yeah, stick with the small, and it will eventually grow into something good and interesting.
ZB: P.S: Making OC's on porn sites such as this is also not a good idea. There are 'a lot' of people who are Luna's waifu (Meaning Wife in weeaboo language), and they will become jealous and aggravated at the OC. It's like they're seeing your girlfriend cheating on ya. Though it's your choice, I'm just giving you tips so you won't get bashed as much in the near future.
Silent_Witness: @ZB: I've gotten that advice before (as a writer than a "real" artist), but it can be difficult for an OC to grow into something good and interesting when there are people who treat OCs as weeds and go out of their way to rip them up by the roots, and this fandom is especially bad in that aspect.
irguy: I was going to log out and post this as an anon but fuck it. I know everyone already said it and he justified it but I fucking hate this oc. Fire? Bullshit. Pick normal hair or the princesses alicorn hair. I also don't understand why the his face is the way it is. Then being grey and trying to use Luna's style, god I just hate this. I remember a good set of ocs, it's in atryls collection on here with two ocs fucking in a shed. That I was ok with because they were both ocs (I think they were ocs not backgrounds) and they didn't have this flaming mane alicorn alpha male asshole look to them. There, I gave my two cents on this:
Anonymous12: @Anonymous: AnonFive, I pray to Cthulhu that something could, and would, kill this fucking obnoxious fandom dead. That's the hope and dream for all non-Bronies.
I could give you advice on how to actually get your fandom to thrive, but I don't want to help. Suffice to say that it isn't OC's and furries causing harm to it.
PinkBallons: @Anonymous: >Implying your advice given to a single anon in the comment section of a porn site could make a fandom consisting of hundreds of thousands of people worldwide thrive
Also: "That's the hope and dream for all non-bronies?" No, that's the dream of hateful and selfish people who either don't understand or refuse to understand bronies; usually the latter.
PinkBallons: @Anonymous: Well see, I'm going to have to disagree with that. When I make a comment, people associate it with a single person. An anon could be anyone.
Legovlas: @PinkBallons: Yeah, but they still don't know who you are. There is only a small difference, having a name just makes things a little more organized.
PinkBallons: @Legovlas: They know who I am online. Having a username gives me incentive to not act like an idiot/asshole, because eventually people would begin associating that with me. However, if I was an idiot/asshole irl that would be a different matter entirely.
SilverS: @ZB: there was a back story behind this and it was something my friend wanted to see :p bleh, thanks anywho. Im taking away his hair, he isnt a prince, and he's actually just Luna's FRIEND, its just here its for. This. lol
SilverS: @ZB: THIS!!! THISS HIGKERGSRXTH This!!!! Give this man a medal! Guys this is what I was trying to tell you the ENTIRE TIME! When I see an OC I look past the fact of who he's screwing xD and look at his actual design and judge from there.
bAv-R34: @SilverS: That's what most of the people here do. Hell, Luna may be best princess, but I love Derpy and Trixie just as much.
Hell, if the OC was on a pony I hate such as Rarity or Applejack, I'd still hate it, just slightly less because it's not fucking my waifus.
Here, as you can see, is a breakdown of why your pic was less than well recieved.
1. OC: Months of horrifically bad original characters buggering our beloved ponies, combined with the nigh-obsessive devotion given to our "waifus", it has become a reflex to begin foaming at the mouth at the first sign of something that does not belong.
2. Alicorn: Even though the reveal of Princess cadence opens up the possibility of ever more alicorns, old consensus was that they are rare and absurdly powerful. Thus, an alicorn as a character has often been seen across ponydom as a lazy way to create an overpowered character. As with OC's in general, if it has wings AND a horn, our knee-jerk reaction is to rant at it until it goes away and we can cuddle with the pony doll we wish we were holding in the cold atmosphere of the basement in which we are residing.
3. Luna: Princess Luna might just be the most waifu'd pony ever. You could gather all of them up and offer the chance to meet her to the last one to walk out of an arena alive, and those motherfuckers would ride into battle against their fellow man with all the fury of the Mongol Empire. Point is; pair ANYTHING with Woona, and you will almost always get some manner of negative response.
So, yeah.
Surprising to myself as much as anyone, I'd like to hear this one's story. Why? Based on your own very civil defense of the creature, yes, but also for the design; your alicorn is one of the first that isn't some manner of inflated gonnerkzaiger with shit personality. We have never seen (and may never see) a male alicorn in canon, yet somehow this seems like the most reasonable (and that's walking on thin relativity) one to yet come at my eyes.
But yes, I have some qualms with it just like everyone else. First off, why is his mark almost identical to Luna's. I infer that they share some manner of cosmic purpose, but if you wanted them to be meant to be together, why not give him an incomplete, waxing moon that would correlate to her waning?
The Mane. Unless this guy is the son of Pony Surtr, I don't see any reason for his hair to be on fire. Celestia, the alicorn of the SUN doesnt have flaming hair, so I have a hard time seeing why he would have the justification
Nightweaver20xx: Alicorns are so rare that once you add fanon they immediately pop up everywhere. "I'm a Super Saiyan! Oh, me too! Hey, I'm one too! Me too! Me too!"
And, didn't you all know, Princess Luna has fucked every single overpowered OC in existence, and they all manage to somehow co-exist without destroying the universe with their AWESOME POWER.
Lord_Adam_Trollingsworth: @SilverS: Why did you turn down the glorious opportunity to fuck my ass, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated at the bottom of my Special Education class and even then it was just to get rid of me, and I’ve been involved in numerous orgies with Al-Quaeda, and I have had over 300 cases of herpes and my already-small dick has nearly disintegrated. I am trained in gorilla humping and I’m the featured dancer in the Faggot Follies chorus line. You are the focus of my life and I want nothing more than your dick in my ass. I will blow you with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with rejecting my obsession over your dick? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of big-titted topless dancers across the USA so you better prepare for the show, maggot. The orgasm that electrifies the wondrous thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I want you to fuck my ass in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just the warmup. Not only am I extensively trained in ballet, but I have access to dozens of dresses in pastel colors and wear them in beauty pageants and I would love to kiss your gorgeous ass, you little shit (that's my pet name for you to show my adoration; do you like it my love?). If only you could have known what fanatical love your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I want you to cum all over me so I can drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
The_Elder_Troll: @Lord_Adam_Trollingsworth: I think it's hilarious that he attempted to say an EX NAVY SEAL had access to the fucking secret service
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Why can't people just make OCs that look like they at least fit into the world they're supposed to exist in?
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Also, I should point out that I don't dislike the art, just the OC design (dislike, not hate). You drew Luna absolutely spot on.
Forget the OC, why are they in Twilight's library?
However, I do hope to see more art from you and hope this doesn't turn you off from paheal. OC's have simply accrued more disdain than most of us might give if you killed our families off, lol. The point is, it's a pre-existing feeling and not born for you alone. We still wubs you. c:
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Oh. The usual.
Actual, I thought this was Firewall from TtEoAP. I was wrong and disappointed.
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Here's some OC's that I've liked: >>888302 and http://i.imgur.com/BQZbn.jpg.
Oh, and what's this about "natural defensive" reasons? I'd, without hesitation, volunteer one of my gentleman-compatriots from around here on paheal before myself. And I'm generally the first to inform someone that they can definitively do better than me. It may seem even nerdier, but we really do have long-winded conversation over the characterization of OC's versus methods of characterization used in FiM and why the OC's don't fit for these reasons.
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Throw me a raft, I'm drowning in autism.
@SilverS: I suggest making the OC simple, and make sure you balance them REAL good. I've been developing my OCs for nearly one and a half years before FiM came out [roughly since 2008/2009] and they are STILL marysue-ish. Yet again, they're technologically advanced aliens and shit. In other words, do not make your character overly complicated.
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Look at this carefully and think hard on it. OC's are indeed fun to create, but the price is good/bad criticism. If you can't accept negative criticisms, then you'll have a hard time dealing with yourself. Here's something you should keep in mind:No OC can be genuinely perfect, just constrictive perfection.
Also, just a heads up in the future. If your planning on making more OC's, I suggest not making anymore Alicorn OC's... trust me, those are hard to accomplish. As for this OC, be sure to make it... well... fitting as possible. That means no flaming mane, related/lover to Luna and whatnot, and acting as a deity/prince of something. It's like your trying to make the ultimate OC that will surpass any other OCs. That's a big no no. So yeah, stick with the small, and it will eventually grow into something good and interesting.
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I could give you advice on how to actually get your fandom to thrive, but I don't want to help. Suffice to say that it isn't OC's and furries causing harm to it.
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Also: "That's the hope and dream for all non-bronies?" No, that's the dream of hateful and selfish people who either don't understand or refuse to understand bronies; usually the latter.
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I THOUGHT FOR SURE AN ANTI-BRONY COMMENT WOULD BE APPRECIATED BY A BUNCH OF BATSHIT INSANE CULTISTS THAT MAKE SCIENTOLOGISTS RECOIL.
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Hell, if the OC was on a pony I hate such as Rarity or Applejack, I'd still hate it, just slightly less because it's not fucking my waifus.
Here, as you can see, is a breakdown of why your pic was less than well recieved.
1. OC: Months of horrifically bad original characters buggering our beloved ponies, combined with the nigh-obsessive devotion given to our "waifus", it has become a reflex to begin foaming at the mouth at the first sign of something that does not belong.
2. Alicorn: Even though the reveal of Princess cadence opens up the possibility of ever more alicorns, old consensus was that they are rare and absurdly powerful. Thus, an alicorn as a character has often been seen across ponydom as a lazy way to create an overpowered character. As with OC's in general, if it has wings AND a horn, our knee-jerk reaction is to rant at it until it goes away and we can cuddle with the pony doll we wish we were holding in the cold atmosphere of the basement in which we are residing.
3. Luna: Princess Luna might just be the most waifu'd pony ever. You could gather all of them up and offer the chance to meet her to the last one to walk out of an arena alive, and those motherfuckers would ride into battle against their fellow man with all the fury of the Mongol Empire. Point is; pair ANYTHING with Woona, and you will almost always get some manner of negative response.
So, yeah.
Surprising to myself as much as anyone, I'd like to hear this one's story. Why? Based on your own very civil defense of the creature, yes, but also for the design; your alicorn is one of the first that isn't some manner of inflated gonnerkzaiger with shit personality. We have never seen (and may never see) a male alicorn in canon, yet somehow this seems like the most reasonable (and that's walking on thin relativity) one to yet come at my eyes.
But yes, I have some qualms with it just like everyone else. First off, why is his mark almost identical to Luna's. I infer that they share some manner of cosmic purpose, but if you wanted them to be meant to be together, why not give him an incomplete, waxing moon that would correlate to her waning?
The Mane. Unless this guy is the son of Pony Surtr, I don't see any reason for his hair to be on fire. Celestia, the alicorn of the SUN doesnt have flaming hair, so I have a hard time seeing why he would have the justification
So, inform the critics I guess.
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And, didn't you all know, Princess Luna has fucked every single overpowered OC in existence, and they all manage to somehow co-exist without destroying the universe with their AWESOME POWER.
Penis in your mouth.
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>Go to work.
>Come home and log on.
>All hell as broken loose.
You're all awesome people.
And by that I mean get high and spoon.
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Also your OC is fag retarded.
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< automatic Bullshit.