Hentaiclopedia: Wow, their IQ really plummeted before their anal lust even really took off. I'm not so sure there's a correlation between the two, she should be citing her sources if she wants to be taken seriously in the field.
TwiLover: No, no, no fuck you no! I let it go until you got to Twi. If I ever got to this particular dimension there would be a lot of dead stallions and at least one dead dragon.
TwiLover: Haven't you been observing? They don't want it. They might have been conditioned to accept it but I hardly think any unicorn would want her horn cut off or any Pegasus her wings removed. That's what the block are by the way where their wings used to be.
posted4you: @Shovel: What? No! I'm saying that Smudge pretty much ALWAYS slips in a little some thing to amuse (or in this case) or to toggle that "literary" switch in your brain.
Do a Google search, you'll see what I mean. :)
Anonymous2: It's a tad hard to read; you mind reproducing what the Blue and Black ink bit say? And what the full letter says, if it was ever actually written in full instead of just teaser material?
I've enjoyed these in general, but this feels like one of the weaker ones. Ignoring the perspective and model problems that plague Smudge (to be fair, he is better with show-style characters) the particular fantasy here is kinda bleh. I feel like this one especially should have focused more on Twi, with her as a more active member of her own humiliation, as we saw with the others. As it is, she's just kinda there.
Still, a weirdly interesting series, and I'm glad you've kept it going this long.
non_creepy_nickname: @Anonymous: There is some truth to what you say. For this pic, I made a conscious decision to move in a more overtly sexual direction. This was to counter what I perceived as a trend of the pics to become a bit too cerebral and sterile. Twilight's role reversal is one that I feel is better demonstrated by the creative use of accessories shown, rather than any particular sexual act I could think of.
The ink recipes are:
1 part fresh cunt juice
1 part Fluttershy's reserve "milk"
2 parts slitsucker slug goo/slutbreaker squid ink
The letter was fully written. I'll confess it's a bit contrived, given that it was only ever intended to have teaser elements visible.
Dear Princess Celestia,
I'm not sure you'll be able to read this as they're busy
putting you in your place. I'm so glad they've got you;
isn't it wonderful to serve the new masters? Spike has been
using me regularly; I think I may be his favorite! If you are
allowed, perhaps you could ask the masters if you could come and
serve with me? I'm sure it would be a lot of fun, and I'm sure we'll be able to
learn from each other, as you said we would.
Hope to see you soon,
-Twilight Sparkle
Anonymous3(2): Anon1 again, guess I should learn to tripfag/username.
@Smudge: Kudos to you for not raging or blowing that off. And I certainly don't envy you having to draw them in anthro or arrange that many characters and props into a working composition. Something a little more specific, since I was vague, and then I'll shut up: Don't be afraid to let your characters overlap the edges a bit, as seen here for example: https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1173451. Don't let it be a crutch to avoid drawing feet or whatever, it can be any part of the body. Instinct is to keep subjects safely away from the edge, but this ends up making them a lot less dynamic.
Also, think about how the eye travels through the picture, especially from character to character. Generally, stable shapes feel boring, and that's what you've got here; the characters form an almost perfect square. Diagonals, curves, and generally anything that feels unique and varied is more interesting to the eye. You want SOME balance, just not too much.
@NCC: Excellent, thanks for the full text. The little details do add a lot to these. Heh, I guess I enjoyed the cerebral stuff then. But like I said, still a fun picture, and glad the series is continuing.
TwiLover: @non_creepy_nickname: Definitely... But, removing a unicorns horn or a Pegasus's wings would be like... I don't know, cutting off your arms? Or something else you might be very attached to. Its wrong on so many levels and I'd kill them all if I could, if I had to kill Twi to save her from what their putting her through I would. And that's saying something. fyi nothing against the picture or series of really, people like this kind of stuff and I'd sure as hell rather they get off to this then going out and trying it themselves.
non_creepy_nickname: @TwiLover: Would it though? Twilight didn't use to have wings. And Discord removed her horn (and the others' wings). In neither case did she react with despondency you'd expect from someone being without arms.
TwiLover: @non_creepy_nickname: True on her wings for sure but Dash? Or any other Pegasus? As for her horn with Discord she did know or at least was promised it was going to be given back but after having it cut off...? Well maybe they grow back...
Thrakerzod: @non_creepy_nickname: and @TwiLover: Your Thoughts on Normal pony behavior intrigue me. As a normal Magical Unicorn I understand these things, but go on.
TwiLover: @non_creepy_nickname: And they should be. But as for Twi 'accepting' things... Well when they took her horn its possible her mind might have snapped and this was the only way she could find to accept it. Or possibly she's a bit devious and waiting her chance to strike. Perhaps her letter to the Princess has hidden meanings. They need to get together to 'learn' things. Or maybe I'm just trying to rational this series I couldn't stomach otherwise eh?
Lonerider: Not to be a kill joy but are you guys actualy debatin over this pic, i mean it's cool and all but i would like to sone one get to the point of all this or maybe Twilight can deduce it for us.
Lapp: @non_creepy_nickname: On the topic of you wondering which direction to take it, I felt the "Luna" bit has been the best (is that the one you meant as "cerebral"?). The irony of turning a graceful and charming character (that we adore for those very reasons) into a bumbling idiot by manual intervention had the sort of black-humour we need! It, of course, depends on what you're comfortable with, but I've felt that a lot of its elements, in both thematic and artistic composition, shined through.
I also recognize that maybe I'm in the minority, liking the more serious of mind-break...but hell, I kinda wanna see more out of that Luna. >.>
non_creepy_nickname: @TwiLover: I hope to show a little bit of the backstory for Twilight. Her letter is genuine.
@Lapp: The Luna pic is probably one of my favorites, too. The ideas there really all just came together. I was actually thinking of the Fluttershy pic; that felt like more of a collection of ideas without as much emphasis on the visceral aspects of sexiness.
I'm not sure if you follow the tumblr (your statement on "wondering which direction" is ambiguous), but Nightmare Night is something we'll be seeing soon. Luna's probably my favorite character, so I can assure you there'll be more of her.
@Lonerider: This is my series. If you're wondering about something, ask.
Anonymous4: @Anonymous: Hey, thanks, I will try to keep those in mind, though your example won't load. I try to do more exotic angles when there are less characters on the picture, but when it's this big I have to zoom out... I know that's not exactly what you talked about, just noting.
As for raging, nah. I know I have ample spare room to improve.
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And what are the blocks on Twilight's back?
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Do a Google search, you'll see what I mean. :)
I've enjoyed these in general, but this feels like one of the weaker ones. Ignoring the perspective and model problems that plague Smudge (to be fair, he is better with show-style characters) the particular fantasy here is kinda bleh. I feel like this one especially should have focused more on Twi, with her as a more active member of her own humiliation, as we saw with the others. As it is, she's just kinda there.
Still, a weirdly interesting series, and I'm glad you've kept it going this long.
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The ink recipes are:
1 part fresh cunt juice
1 part Fluttershy's reserve "milk"
2 parts slitsucker slug goo/slutbreaker squid ink
The letter was fully written. I'll confess it's a bit contrived, given that it was only ever intended to have teaser elements visible.
Dear Princess Celestia,
I'm not sure you'll be able to read this as they're busy
putting you in your place. I'm so glad they've got you;
isn't it wonderful to serve the new masters? Spike has been
using me regularly; I think I may be his favorite! If you are
allowed, perhaps you could ask the masters if you could come and
serve with me? I'm sure it would be a lot of fun, and I'm sure we'll be able to
learn from each other, as you said we would.
Hope to see you soon,
-Twilight Sparkle
@Smudge: Kudos to you for not raging or blowing that off. And I certainly don't envy you having to draw them in anthro or arrange that many characters and props into a working composition. Something a little more specific, since I was vague, and then I'll shut up: Don't be afraid to let your characters overlap the edges a bit, as seen here for example: https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1173451. Don't let it be a crutch to avoid drawing feet or whatever, it can be any part of the body. Instinct is to keep subjects safely away from the edge, but this ends up making them a lot less dynamic.
Also, think about how the eye travels through the picture, especially from character to character. Generally, stable shapes feel boring, and that's what you've got here; the characters form an almost perfect square. Diagonals, curves, and generally anything that feels unique and varied is more interesting to the eye. You want SOME balance, just not too much.
@NCC: Excellent, thanks for the full text. The little details do add a lot to these. Heh, I guess I enjoyed the cerebral stuff then. But like I said, still a fun picture, and glad the series is continuing.
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I also recognize that maybe I'm in the minority, liking the more serious of mind-break...but hell, I kinda wanna see more out of that Luna. >.>
@Lapp: The Luna pic is probably one of my favorites, too. The ideas there really all just came together. I was actually thinking of the Fluttershy pic; that felt like more of a collection of ideas without as much emphasis on the visceral aspects of sexiness.
I'm not sure if you follow the tumblr (your statement on "wondering which direction" is ambiguous), but Nightmare Night is something we'll be seeing soon. Luna's probably my favorite character, so I can assure you there'll be more of her.
@Lonerider: This is my series. If you're wondering about something, ask.
As for raging, nah. I know I have ample spare room to improve.